Madara Uchiha
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Post by Madara Uchiha on Nov 10, 2010 18:30:27 GMT -5
I am throwing this out and that is with all the jinchūriki and their tailed forms they have. Before a player releases a tailed form they have an Admin check the thread to decided if it would be allowable and what tailed level would fit the condition. Using this the player would be getting permission to use the tailed beast forms. Any thoughts, to me it just makes it so jinchūriki do not abuse their powers.
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SiN
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Post by SiN on Nov 10, 2010 18:53:20 GMT -5
Well, I would agree with this rule but only for Jinchuriki who cannot control their Biju powers, such as Naruto. For Jinchuriki such as Killer Bee, they should be able to use it how they see fit, just as the actual character can.
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Madara Uchiha
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Post by Madara Uchiha on Nov 10, 2010 19:06:44 GMT -5
I agree with that it would make no sense why Killer Bee would have to have permission to use his Biju. It can also something we can allow other Jinchuriki to work for and train to achieve. However control over a Biju should only be for those who are approved by the Admins.
Also I would like to say that we do not need tailed forms they can spend their chakra on other things like Gara's does. Allowing them to maybe bend another element or so forth. We do not need to have massively powerful tailed forms running around.
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Miroke
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Post by Miroke on Nov 11, 2010 9:52:41 GMT -5
Gaara can only control sand because that is the Shukaku's power. Not all bijuu have power over an element. Similarly, Gaara is the only bijuu never shown to have a tailed form, only his possession form. This stuff has been explained much better than you think. You just have to hunt for it in the manga a little bit.
With the exception of Gaara, the tailed form is a jinchuuriki's main method of utilizing their bijuu's power. You can't just remove it altogether.
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Post by Hishirugi Maximillion on Nov 11, 2010 13:34:03 GMT -5
I think the boost should give this at the most:
Percentage of boost = Percentage of health depletion.
25% power boost = 25% Health loss per post. Four posts = KO 5% Power Boost = 5% Health loss per post. Twenty five posts = KO.
I don't think anything else would be fair, since there are too many variables to work with otherwise.
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Madara Uchiha
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Post by Madara Uchiha on Nov 11, 2010 13:55:13 GMT -5
No not that fair. Your saying if Naruto uses 25% of his power I need to just use space/time ninjutsu 4 times and win? dodge his attacks which I could do all day? I do not get it. How is that fair. Maybe it is fair play to you Kagekami but think of who they are fighting. Plus yes their us a lot of factors in it, but you cannot just throw those away for some cheap ass answer like that. Think about it, were would the challenge be for me and the others. We just avoid them until they knock out, it makes not sense to me, and I would win so easily. Come on Kagekami you can do better, you last system was great. I will spend time to think of a system that can be fair, and it will depend on how many tails they have as well. It may not be fair for a normal ninja but these beasts are what makes these ninja be able to stand up to the Akatsuki and cannot just be ripped off like that Kagekami, other wise say hello to the world of Madara please leave your free will at the door. Thank you enjoy your stay.
I know having a tailed beast is not fair and over powered but so is the Dead Brothers, and Me, and Deidra, and Itachi, so since we are hunting them like mad dogs they deserve more power
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Post by Hishirugi Maximillion on Nov 11, 2010 17:35:30 GMT -5
They would lose the Bijuu boost. And yes, they need to be able to be sure and strike with precision, or they end up wasting precious time and Chakra.
That's always been an element of the Naruto series, and Naruto Eternity.
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Post by Kabuto Yakushi on Nov 11, 2010 18:33:03 GMT -5
Well okay um... first only tailed beast forms hurt your body, so does this have effect with them drawing the Chakra and just the Chakra like Naruto did in the first part when he was begining to weild Kyuubi's power?
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Post by Hishirugi Maximillion on Nov 12, 2010 8:32:10 GMT -5
Theoretically, no. It wouldn't. However, here at NE, we have to deal with the distinct possibility of random people off the street ending up with Jinchuuriki, and making it like the DBZ RPGs....everyone and their brother wants to join as a Saiyan..... to the point where they pick a character they will just end up ditching down the line, because they cared nothing for the character, only for their powers.
I can see where you guys are coming from, wanting to mete out the Bijuu system a bit more. However, as it stands right now, we have not found a way yet to establish such a system, and make it still realistic and fair for all involved.
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Miroke
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Post by Miroke on Nov 12, 2010 9:31:31 GMT -5
The only side effects of the jinchuuriki form(tails) that has ever been revealed are long-term, though. If you have them dying slowly during the battle, isn't that kinda contradicting what is in the manga? It's like Sasuke's CS2, big power boost and no immediate side effects until the form is exited. I understand wanting to make this fair to those of us without jinchuuriki or kekkei genkai, but that's the point of jinchuuriki. They're the Naruto-verse equivalent to WMDs.
What about using the same system you suggested, hurting them greatly as the battle progresses, but only until they master their bijuu's power? As it stands on this site plot-wise, only Naruto is really required as a jinchuuriki, and he's years from mastering the chakra. The cannon jinchuuriki who have mastered their bijuu's power could be replaced with custom jinchuuriki, making anyone applying start from scratch as a threat for only minutes at a time. This way, you won't have people RP a cannon jinchuuriki who has mastered their power already, say Killerbee, and Godmod their power. You could slowly approve the person controlling the chakra, and gaining more powerful tailed forms slowly as they RP. Keeps everyone under close watch, godmodding to a minimum, and jinchuuriki from being watered down into another random stand-in character.
I have an argument ready for Gaara, but it'll wait.
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Post by Hishirugi Maximillion on Nov 13, 2010 9:46:19 GMT -5
I have an idea I'll run by Itachi, regarding Canon Jinchuuriki. However, Custom Jinchuuriki is NOT gonna happen. So far, that is unanimous between the Admins.
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Rama Sha
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Post by Rama Sha on Nov 13, 2010 13:33:57 GMT -5
Try not to speak for us all unless we have come to decision on the matter, Kagekami.
Since we know next to nothing about 7 of the 9 Jinchuuriki, I wouldn't be against a few new ones. But I hold that if we allow this, someone applying for a Custom Jinchuuriki would have to gain the approval of two, maybe three admins first. And if we feel the need to we can vote to revoke the rights if the person gets stupid about it.
As for Jinchuuriki being in control of their 'guests'... I move that no Jinchuuriki will ever fully be in complete control of their demon or the powers they get because of said demon. After all, the only thing these demons really want is to be released from their prisons and by hell will they fight for it. While with training the Jinchuuriki will be able to call on the powers and use them correctly without losing their minds, all this will mean is that they will find ignoring the voice demanding they kill everything easier then before. It will always be there.
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Post by Hishirugi Maximillion on Nov 13, 2010 13:34:51 GMT -5
Sorry, forgot about you, Rama.
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Rama Sha
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Post by Rama Sha on Nov 14, 2010 1:28:59 GMT -5
That's alright.
And you're views on what I think we should do with the Biju?
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Miroke
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Post by Miroke on Nov 14, 2010 14:52:50 GMT -5
Seven out of nine? There is detailed info on three jinchuuriki, with bits and pieces for the rest.
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Post by Hishirugi Maximillion on Nov 14, 2010 16:55:55 GMT -5
That's alright. And you're views on what I think we should do with the Biju? I will work out a system where individuals will train to master different levels of the Bijuu, which will grant them temporary access to higher levels of chakra. Levels that will increase with each degree of mastery. Folks will have the following options: 1) Subject themselves (and their characters) to grueling training in order to gain access to their Jinchuuriki abilities. Training that will be posted on the "Ability Missions" sub-board (not created yet), each individual's training to be supervised and graded by Yours Truly. 2) Go without a bonus. After I train the other Admins in how this system will work, and make sure they know the Ins and Outs of it, things will steadily get better and better. The Great Wall wasn't built in a day, so try and exercise some patience while I work out the bugs in the system and make sure it doesn't have overtly fatal flaws to it that will throw the whole game off, or any of it's other systems.
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